Subject	I don't think so
Posted by	ZBlacktt on November 15, 2003 at 2:58 AM
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In Reply To	I would think that the farther away from the center of the posted by Spee on November 14, 2003 at 09:47 PM
Message	Your comparing using two forces that are not equal. The brake caliper is rated at so many pounds per square inch of holding power ( clamping force), period. Using a bigger ratchet vise a smaller one is leveraging a greater use in power ( moving up for more torque power, like using upgraded calipers ) . Essentially what your really asking here is your stock caliper with it's two piston clamping force to bite down and slow a greater inertia disc and it's not going to be very affective. Better than a stock 11" disc? sure, but not like a Caliper built for clamping down on a 20lbs heavy disc. Plus as I'm sure you also know, the greatest point of force in a spinning object is the most outer side from the center. my thoughts anyway :) STAGE V++++ Going to XV+ and beyond :) Yellow Z STAGE II Going to XI+
Follow Ups	13" big brake kit - revisited.. - AshsZ 19:18:58 11/14/03 Would you like your money Visa, IOU, Paypal or Cash? - KàPPá¹ 19:31:05 11/14/03 don't forget your new 17 inch wheels/tires with that. (n/m) - SactoTodd 19:36:19 11/14/03 Yes, it does require 17" rims, or bigger. (n/m) - AshsZ 19:55:51 11/14/03 Big Volk Rims on the way - KàPPá¹ 20:10:26 11/14/03 Great! Didn't see anything in your profile, just checking. (n/m) - SactoTodd 22:09:10 11/14/03 Stop Techs are far superior to Ash's/Z1's setup that - NR98 (next year) 19:37:28 11/14/03 I agree, but people in general are cheap. - SeedyROM 20:21:46 11/14/03 Couldn't agree more with your last statement. (n/m) - Spee 21:11:54 11/14/03 Well, he said he was about to buy the StopTech which likely - AshsZ 21:51:52 11/14/03 people are "always about to buy it" until it comes time - Chris(NJ) 00:19:23 11/15/03 LOL, true. =) (n/m) - AshsZ 09:20:22 11/15/03 No need to defend it. Like I said, there's room for it. - SeedyROM 04:32:26 11/15/03 All I'm saying is that it is a 'seat of pants' difference. - AshsZ 09:24:57 11/15/03 Interesting dictionary find... >>> - AshsZ 22:20:55 11/14/03 Nah, just another way to spell CD (n/m) - olyar15 23:33:59 11/14/03 Nah, it goes back to an early spelling error :) - SeedyROM 04:27:53 11/15/03 why would you not get Stoptechs? (n/m) - Spee 19:49:32 11/14/03 I think we both know the answer to that. (n/m) - Chris(NJ) 00:14:16 11/15/03 Don't forget stoptech includes new bigger calipers (n/m) - zboost 19:49:47 11/14/03 Sorry bro, didn't mean to get you chewed out. (n/m) - AshsZ 19:50:43 11/14/03 huh? - TARGETZ 19:40:12 11/14/03 This will explain it pretty well.. - AshsZ 19:41:46 11/14/03 ahhh - TARGETZ 19:46:09 11/14/03 LOL, yeah, I see that. Meant to say 'fit the calilper over - AshsZ 19:49:19 11/14/03 cool... - TARGETZ 19:59:05 11/14/03 30mm. I've already made an imprint of the caliper - AshsZ 22:37:03 11/14/03 Interested (n/m) - Sean92NA 19:49:44 11/14/03 Ash, have you visited the idea of using the COBRA caliper? (n/m) - PiotrC70 20:49:23 11/14/03 Thought about it but haven't gotten my hands on them. - AshsZ 21:39:06 11/14/03 Stupid question----> - Kyle(Houston) 21:40:50 11/14/03 great question! I was wondering the same thing... (n/m) - tranzlucent 21:46:32 11/14/03 I would think that the farther away from the center of the - Spee 21:47:27 11/14/03 its amazing what little leverage in the right direction does (n/m) - 3 double-0 ZX(Va Bch) 21:54:37 11/14/03 Its even more amazing behind the wheel. :) - AshsZ 21:57:33 11/14/03 Ahhh....didn't think about that......thanks... (n/m) - Kyle(Houston) 22:57:22 11/14/03 Yes but that is only true is the caliper - TARGETZ 23:45:44 11/14/03 same clamping force + more leverage = more stopping power - Guapo 23:58:08 11/14/03 ture but only if the caliper is up for the task - TARGETZ 09:28:32 11/15/03 no it isn't. - Spee 11:01:41 11/15/03 Kyle, Kyle, Kyle... That gay Porn Getting to you, huh? :-) (n/m) - Coz@CZP 01:58:26 11/15/03 Shut your hole....biaaaatch ;-)......... (n/m) - Kyle(Houston) 07:26:33 11/15/03 I don't think so - ZBlacktt 02:58:42 11/15/03 Same clamping force at a greater radius from the axis - AshsZ 09:18:37 11/15/03 Weird how they look smaller than 13" too,, lol. - ZBlacktt 10:12:58 11/15/03 I'm not saying it's equal to an upgraded caliper. - Spee 11:13:32 11/15/03 I was thinking ( saying ) Stock caliper clamping rate - ZBlacktt 13:06:17 11/15/03 * Would not allow a great * (n/m) - ZBlacktt 14:45:48 11/15/03 Like Spee said, leverage. (n/m) - AshsZ 21:54:22 11/14/03 Like they said, it's a basic physics problem. Technically, - robo (sebring1970) 00:14:53 11/15/03 IN the driver's seat, but I'm sure the passengers in the 2+2 - AshsZ 09:26:16 11/15/03 lol at myself, or "behind the wheel" (n/m) - robo (sebring1970) 14:12:19 11/15/03 if the rotor is thicker... what do you do for pads? - 3 double-0 ZX(Va Bch) 21:50:55 11/14/03 Rotor thickness is 30mm, but remember that the disc is - AshsZ 21:56:20 11/14/03 Ash, who makes these rotors? (n/m) - tranzlucent 22:01:36 11/14/03 duh, Ford I would assume. (n/m) - tranzlucent 22:03:45 11/14/03 Oooh, thanks. when you said thicker, i invisioned this - 3 double-0 ZX(Va Bch) 22:09:31 11/14/03 Ever think of cryogentically treated rotors? >>>> - not-hrz 22:25:42 11/14/03 Hmm. That's a thought.. No, I haven't, but we do - AshsZ 22:34:54 11/14/03 Re: 13" big brake kit - revisited.. (n/m) - jpark74 23:49:01 11/14/03 and no mention of where the rotors came from ..... - Luke@tirerack 07:54:35 11/15/03 let me guess >>> - YellowZXTT 22:39:36 11/15/03
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